Response to Jona’s question on Thu Mar 25 2004 12:14 am

 

Session Five - Catch the computer train'

 

In an article by Jamie McKenzie in the journal Multimedia Schools, this statement is made:

"Without investing heavily in adult learning and program development to set the stage for frequent and effective use of new technologies, it is foolish to jump ahead to the installation of networked computers throughout a school."

If that is true, what do you see as the best ways for teachers to learn and put new technologies to good use? What training plan or activities would be most benficial to you?

 

Hi Jona and everyone,

Coming from a computer programming background I would probably not be overwhelmed by the newer technologies as much as someone who did not have as much experience with computers. I think that they should obtain the technology and then have mini-training sessions for teachers, maybe performed by some of the trained Media Specialists who should learn that technology anyway.

Since I am not a public school teacher yet, I cannot reasonably speak to the issue of having to teach to the state's standards yet. I do see teachers at my son's elementary school complain every time their schedules get changed around. Some feel like they are taking one step forward and two steps back when the principal decides to have the students rotate from teacher to teacher for different subjects and then changes homerooms in the middle of the year for most of the fourth and fifth graders. I don't know what the purpose is other than some of the teachers are specializing in a subject and they rotate the kids through that teacher.

One thing that might help teachers is if they can access this new technology from their home computer (probably with a password so that others can't enter the system). Then, on the weekends or evenings they may be able to go through some tutorials without the pressure of being at school and needing to be in their classroom.

When I worked in Silicon Valley at Control Data Corporation, I was in graduate school for the Masters of Computer Science program and I had to work full-time and then do my homework afterwards. My boss got me an account on the huge Cyber computer at work and I could dial up from 20 miles away (at home) and do my homework in the evenings on an empty computer system (no other users) all to myself. In the same train of thought, maybe the Media Specialist could set up a training Web page that would describe how to use the new technology so that the teachers could access it remotely when they had some extra quiet time.

I know that some teachers have a really hectic schedule at home besides teaching so maybe a lunch time or two a week with some planned tutorials set up by the Media Specialist would work for them in the computer lab. The computer lab at my son's school seems to be empty at lunch time unless the librarian, also the Media Specialist, has something planned.

Well, these are my thoughts for now. I'll be back...later,
Cindy Vaskis

 

Reply to Anthony on Fri Mar 26 2004 8:43 pm

 

Hi Anthony,

I was a little dismayed at your comment about teachers not being able to spend any time on special interest type lessons because they are so over booked with the state requirements now.

I am heading into a field, math high school teacher, where I had hoped to introduce some examples of where math is used in the real world to inspire the students to study their current math topics.

I guess if time does not allow it I'll have to start an applied math club where kids can come to look at applications on the Internet and discuss what it happening there in terms of the math used.

If you get a chance to look at my web bibliography, I have a bunch of space related sites (Space Station, Space Shuttle, Hubble telescope, Mars exploration) that are to be examples in my drop-in lessons. I hope to explain to students where the math they are learning is used in the real world. They are not going to remember or enjoy learning the math unless they see a purpose in it and how it may affect the world around them.

Well, I hope you can share something encouraging about your teaching experiences where students became excited about learning about the world around them. It sounds like the teachers are too overwhelmed to enjoy what they are doing, teaching the next generation about the world they will have to operate in within a few years.

Cindy Vaskis
3/26/04

 

Reply to Billy on Fri Mar 26 2004 9:05 pm

 

Hi Billy,

I just read an article from InfoToday, September 2003, about a computer package called Concert IA by a company called Pearson Digital Learning. This package has its lesson plans and tests online for students and teachers to use. When a student completes a lesson, Concert IA grades it and reports it to the teacher's online grade book. Eventually, that student's progress is also reported to the state to comply with the state's reporting requirements. The article is by Merna Smith and Paul Tumarkin in "The new reality of the online education community: Today, the Web represents a comprehensive, cross-functional education resource, indispensable for successful school and district strategies." from InfoToday, September, 2003. http://infotoday.com/MMSchools/sep03/MMSWP0903.pdf
in case you are interested. It takes a few minutes to load since it has a few advertisement pages at the start. It claims to meet state requirements in its lesson plans and tests. It also has incorporated some training lessons for teachers on how to use the new tool Concert IA.

Talk to you later,
Cindy Vaskis
3/26/04

 

Additional response to question on Sat Mar 27 2004 11:08 pm

 

Hi Jona,

I am not sure exactly what you mean by networked computers. Do you mean that they are connected to the Internet or just networked within a school with each other? I think Carroll County has some computers in every school that is online to the Web but I don't think those in the teachers' classrooms are all on the Internet. I know that some of them were connected to each other for the purposes of sending stuff from a classroom to a printer in the computer lab in the school's library area. They have their own network within the building.

As far as spending large amounts of money and time training teachers, I don't think that is as necessary as having available some easily walked through tutorials online that could be accessed via the Internet. Then the school's Web site could list different professional training programs and computer usage tutorials where the teachers could try some things from home on the school's web site.

These are some additional thoughts,
Cindy Vaskis
3/27/04

 

Additional response to question on Mon Mar 29 2004 4:47 pm

 

Hi Jona and everyone,

Sunday morning about 9am I was listening to WTTR 1490AM radio and there was a rebroadcast of a recent Carroll County Board of Education meeting discussing a plan to incorporate electronic (Internet) learning into the Carroll County public schools, some I believe was aimed at training the teachers. I remember them mentioning Mr. Stone and I know he is part of that Board. I don't know who the speaker was but he had a two year grant and a plan to install a system for online learning. Have any of you in other counties heard anything about your school district installing any kind of educational online system?

Just thought you'd like to hear about what is happening in Carroll County. Talk to you later,

Cindy Vaskis

 

Reply to Heather on Sun Apr 4 2004 12:09 pm

 

Hi Heather,

Thanks for responding to my comments. I would like to find out about any grants to help students apply the math they are learning and have a "heads up" on knowing how to use math in the workplace. It was a long road for me to learn new ways to use math at work by being placed on projects to build math computer programs.

It took me about two years to learn Reliability engineering at Boeing but I ended up building a tool that I think they are still using today. I took a class at University of Washington in graduate school on this subject and got a 4.0, so I guessed I learned how math was used in that area. But, it was a lot of effort to find out what was important to focus on and what to ignore. If I can help students do that before they need to hunt for a job, they will be better off and approach their career in a more well-informed manner.

If you do know of anyone I can contact about grants or how to find out about them please email me at cjvaskis@aol.com.

Thanks again,
Cindy Vaskis

 

Reply to Laurie on Sun Apr 4 2004 12:26 pm

 

Hi Laurie,

Thanks for your comments. I know if someone had told or showed me how math was used in the real world it would not have been so tedious to study it in high school and college. My bachelors in science degree is in Mathematics (Numerical Analysis) which I did because it was the closest thing that the University of Washington had to computer programming for undergraduates (1974-1977). They were just starting their undergraduate computer science program then. They had a graduate program though. I wanted to learn to program so I went into applied math (not theoretical which I have a hard time understanding) and took all of the computer classes I could (mostly FORTRAN, BASIC, COBOL and ASSEMBLY programming then). Newer languages had not yet been developed. I accepted a job as a computer analyst/programmer with Control Data Corporation in Sunnyvale, CA right in the middle of Silicon Valley when it became known as Silicon Valley (1977-1981). If someone had told me that I would need my math background at work I would have paid more attention to how to compute things in school. I had to go back to my math books and find stuff I could use for some of my work projects.

I really hope that I can inspire some students who like math to not get discouraged when they are learning it and to point them toward careers that could use the math they are learning.

Thanks again,
Cindy Vaskis

 

Reply to Laurie on Sun Apr 4 2004 1:09 pm

 

Hi Laurie,

Thanks for the article information. I agree with the problems that you stated. As the old saying goes, "if you don't use it, you lose it". I think this applies to a lot of things but especially to technical things and I'm sure that is why this class has a journal or activity log so that you write down where you have been on the Web. The ideal situation would be to develop an online directory listing the many training tools or tutorials out there on the Web and then when the teacher needs to brush up on something they can pick the one that is going to give them that information instead of having to browse through others that might not meet their needs.

Thanks for you thoughts,
Cindy Vaskis