Discussion Session 2 (Feb 9, 2004 to Feb 22, 2004)

The introduction of networks and easy availability of electronic information could bring about major improvements in the ability of students to read, write, and reason. Schools and homes now have tools and resources that can help learning and actively engage the student.

Discuss changes that you have seen or expect to see in your teaching/classroom as a result of the use of technology (computers, CD's, databases, online services, Internet, etc.)

 

Response to Discussion Topic on Wed Feb 11 2004 12:01 pm

 

Here is a little background about my experiences with computers. I have a B.S. in Mathematics and have taken many graduate level computer science and mathematics courses. I worked for fourteen years at several large computer and engineering companies as a computer analyst/programmer on highly technical mathematical and artificial intelligence government projects.

When I married and had two sons close in age, I left working full-time but decided to stay involved with computers by teaching computer classes at several home schooling groups. When my kids entered grade school I started helping in the school library which I have done here in
Westminster, MD for the last three years.

Although my help in the library has been mainly taking inventory, filing books, preparing new books for use (labeling and cataloging books on the computer), I have noticed that students use the computers infrequently to research topics for report assignments given by the librarian. By the way, the librarian does a good job teaching students where to find things in the library and look up books in the computer's card catalog. I help keep the books in order on the shelf and they can be quite out of order in an elementary library.

Getting back to the subject of how the internet is used by the students, there are "specials" teachers that come in to the library to help the students perform their research or assignments on the computers. It seems that most of the time the computers are used to help the students learn to type and write short papers. I don't see them using it very often for research and the computer room seems to be empty most of the time. I think this is due to the tight schedule in the other main subjects (math, science, ILA, etc.) that prohibit the students from spending much time there.

I think if technology is going to be used more often the teachers will have to incorporate it into their lesson plans instead of leaving it as a "specials" activity. If the students need to use the internet to research a topic they are studying then they should be given some time during regular class time to go to the library's computer room. In older grades this may not be a problem as long as the students are given a lesson or two on how to logon and find some initial search engines. In grade school (first through fifth), it may have to be done as a class so that the teacher (or librarian) can monitor their progress.

Ideally, the teachers would incorporate computer time in the classroom (on the classroom's computer) during the lesson to show students where to find interesting web sites related to the subject being taught. Unfortunately, many teachers are probably not familiar with how to search for web sites themselves and the computers in their classroom are not fully utilized as research tools. Instead the computers are used as organizational tools for the teacher or as computer fun reward time for kids who finish their work early.

In some cases, I am not sure that all of the classroom computers are hooked up to the internet. Some are connected to a school wide system to send messages to other personnel in the school system such as the principal and other teachers.

For the web and computers to be used more frequently, the teachers need to be planning their lessons to include showing the students interesting websites to visit. The teachers should also research the different lessons available online for their subject area and let the students pick one or two to complete as part of regular assignment time in the classroom.

Being a computer programmer and interested in tutoring math and conveying computer knowledge to students, I can see great potential for web site and tutoring programs to be joined in an overall "improve your math and computer skills" website. I have discussed this matter with Carroll County Public Schools' math supervisor and hope this class with give me the background to forge ahead with this project.

 

Reply to Laurie Lewis on Wed Feb 11 2004 12:25 pm

 

Hello Laurie,

I enjoyed reading your discussion message about students using the internet for research. I know the whole idea of using computers on the web can be overwhelming for those who are not trained or experienced in doing so. I think each school's librarian or "specials" education teacher should take this class since they are probably going to be the ones guiding the students on how to use the web. I think the teachers who need to maintain their certification by taking more classes should consider taking this class as well. It so happens that the librarian where I help in the school library has taken this class. I plan on asking her how much of what she has learned has helped her with the students.

A big problem that I have seen and heard from teachers is that they barely have enough time to teach the basics let alone introduce new subjects or ways of teaching that require more time. I think the concern among teachers is that the start up time for the students to get used to using the web and for the teachers to know what is out there may seem too risky. They are concerned about just getting the students to do the basic lessons.

I hope that as more teachers and librarians use the web, and if more take this class, that gradually their lesson plans will include interesting websites and online lessons. Maybe we can make a difference by creating some really great web sites that we could show to the teachers or principals where we work or volunteer in the schools. That may encourage them to try using the web more.

Hope to hear from you again, Cindy (Cynthia) Vaskis
2/11/04 Wed.

 

Reply to Heather Hess on Sun Feb 15 2004 5:15 am

 

Hello Heather,

Thanks for responding to my message. I agree with you in that the younger generation seems to know how to manuever around a computer game much better than I ever will. I think this is because they have no pre-concept about how difficult it might be and they are not afraid to try things even if they don't get it right the first couple of times. They just keep pounding the keyboard until something works. I have found that I have to do that in this class, just keep at it until it does what I want it to do. It does take a lot of time to work through new software and kids have the time since they are not bothered with jobs or cooking or cleaning the house.

My background as a computer programmer was when I was single and could spend the time as I wanted to but now with a family I only get large blocks of time when the kids are in school or late at night.

I think teachers will have to educate themselves on using the web and finding web related resources for teaching in order to keep their students' interest. The days of using only one method of teaching is going away. If money for schools is cut, those who make decisions about what teachers to keep or let go will most certainly look at who can utilize current technology to keep the students interested in learning.

Well, hope to hear more of your comments in the future,

Cindy Vaskis

 

Second response to Discussion Topic on Sun Feb 15 2004 6:00 am

 

I have an additional response to this question of whether I have seen the use of the Internet in the classroom and what I expect to see in the future. I volunteer in both of my sons' elementary school libraries (they go to different schools). One school's librarian took this class a year or two ago. I asked her if anyone does research on the Internet for student assignments. Up until now the Internet has not been utilized much. Only recently did every classroom have a computer hooked up to the Internet.

I think as teachers try to search the Internet themselves to help plan their own lessons, eventually they will have the students researching topics on the Internet. The students are probably more comfortable with computers than the teachers.

I think the information gap between those schools with Internet access and those without will affect whether a student can compete for admission to some of the better universities. For those students who work well independently, the Internet can be a valuable resource. For those students who need more attention, the Internet could appear to be a confusing maze. One solution to keeping all the students on the “same page” would be to use working groups so that the students could help each other overcome the problems in first learning how to use the Internet.

Cindy Vaskis

 

Another reply to Heather Hess on Sun Feb 22 2004 12:59 am

 

Hi Heather,

I enjoyed your summary (so far) statements. I think you are correct in stating that it will be difficult to get some teachers, if not most, to start using the Internet simply because they have not been trained to do so. I am not currently a teacher in the public schools but I have trained peers (engineers and computer programmers) at work on how to run and manage software systems that I helped create. It takes a lot of time to prepare a clear presentation of the material. To incorporate Internet usage into a lesson plan would take a lot of preparation time on the teacher's part even if they were familiar with surfing the web.

It would be useful to develop a "teacher lesson planning" web site where the teacher could follow a set of instructions that would allow them to quickly build a lesson plan with links to related topics. It might provide them with many different styled templates that they could pick from and fill in with the specific lesson's information.

I know from what I have seen in my sons' science lessons in third grade that they have certain things they repeat each year (taking measurements experiment, paper airplane flying competition, parachute drop with an egg in its basket experiment, etc.). If the teacher were to plan as part of the lesson that students research on the web some related topics (such as "tools used for measuring in science or engineering", "airplane gliders" or "airplane designer" web sites to learn about aerodynamic principals, or "parachute design" or "a parachute club's different group falling formations and why they work" web sites) then they may have more of an appreciation for their simple school experiments.

Maybe, because I have a history of computer programming as a career, I am always looking for where software could provide someone with tools to perform their job better. In this case, what web site tools could be created so that the training time for teachers can be significantly cut down and allow them to get the end product they want, a lesson plan for students to use on the Internet. Maybe the web site would maintain a huge inventory of lesson plan templates that the teachers could start from and modify (in a Word File) and then add their "tailored" lesson plan to a folder located on their classroom computer.

From 1993 to 1994 I taught a computer class at several home schooling groups (before the Internet was around). It would have been useful to show the students examples of what I was teaching them that others in the world had done. For example, I taught them how computers draw on the screen using RGB (red-green-blue color values) and point to point drawing algorithms. I explained how the software creates three dimensional models in an X-Y-Z coordinate system that are projected onto the screen's flat (X-Y) plane from a particular view point using math (trigonometry and algebra).

It would have been nice to show my students some online examples of what different companies were producing in 3D modeling software. I worked at a company that produced the software for Army tank simulators. I showed my students some pictures of what the terrain database looked like that the tank simulators drove across, i.e., what the soldiers inside the simulators would see out their tank simulator "windows" which were actually computer display screens. It would have been nice to show them live examples of 3D modeling software in action. Today, almost every computer game you can buy uses this technology (3D modeling) but I doubt that most who play the games know how the models and background scenes are drawn to the screen.

I think there is a lot of work that could be done to prepare "lesson planning" web sites for teachers to use which could end up being one answer to the "lack of web training" for teachers. In a much smaller way, that is what we are doing individually here in this class, creating our own web site for a single topic. The student web sites from this class could serve as examples to this "lesson planning" web site. The "lesson planning" web site would have access to a library of lesson plan templates covering many topics and instructions for combining lessons templates with web links. It would end up being an abbreviated form of the web site creation assignment for this class.

Maybe those of us taking this class and those who will take it can collaborate to build a "lesson planning" web site and library of lesson plans that teachers could select from and tailor to their needs. It would be great to think that what we do in this class might be useful in the future to help teachers better utilize the Internet for its research and learning tools.

Cindy (Cynthia) Vaskis

 

Second response to Discussion Topic on Sun Feb 22 2004 1:39 am

 

Hi Jona,

I already responded to your topic question before but wanted to add what I see happening in the future with technology in the classroom. My experience has been that if a software need is clearly defined, there will eventually be someone who develops software to meet that need.

Right now I think the newer generation of teachers just coming out of school and those who have gone back to school are becoming aware of the importance of utilizing the resources of the Internet. As those teachers decide that they want to use the Internet, they may become frustrated at the enormity of information and become discouraged at their attempts to extract just what they need to build a lesson plan. Please see my (long)
2/22/04 response to Heather.

What may and should happen is that tools should be created to help those teachers get what they need from the Internet and incorporate it into their lesson plans. I proposed creating a "lesson planning" web site that helps teachers create their own "tailored" lesson plan with links to related topics. Hopefully, those link web sites would spark an interest in the student for the topic being studied.

The "lesson planning" web site would allow the teacher to select an initial lesson plan from a huge library of lesson plans and then modify (edit) it to fit their needs. They could select web links to add to the lesson plan. It would then be saved on their classroom (or library) computers where the students could work on the lesson.

I hope that students from this class and future classes would be interested in collaborating to build such a "lesson planning" web site and library of lesson plan templates that could be an initial solution to helping teachers over the Internet learning curve.

Cindy Vaskis